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Posted on Sunday May 16 3:37:00 BST 2010
Listed under: Music

Dear nobody,

Obviously the whole regular blogging thing hasn't been as successful as we'd hoped. After our album 'launch' Christmas was on us pretty quickly, we rushed around doing non-band related things and we chilled where we could. We'd like to thank The Interventions and Everybody be Cool and send our best wishes to The Argument and How it Started and especially to Joel. Get well soon.

We got in the studio a couple of times in Jan (I think), then went back in early Feb as we had a gig with Deer Park on the 23rd Feb. Unfortunately this gig meant us having to turn down a support slot the night before at the Water Rats Theatre with the mighty Let Our Enemies beware and Lafarro. Still we have probably 10-15 embryonic new songs, possibly more...2 of which we honed into (virtually) playable versions for the gig with Deer Park on the 23rd at The Good Ship in Kilburn. In between, on either the 11th or the 18th of Feb we played a rather impromptu gig at The Crown and Treaty in Uxbridge, possibly after one-too-many beers. I believe we played:

Won't forget
Suburb 666
Will to fail
Uptown again
Girlsmakerain

So to the Good Ship 23rd Feb 2010. We had a great night and a fairly good turnout considering it was a Tuesday. Setlist as below, possible live versions of one or two songs will be available as MP3s soon:

Won't forget
Away
Thirty3
Suburb 666
Baby come down
Untitled
Anywhere but here
Uptown again

Last Friday (12th March) we played The Cavendish Arms in Stockwell, it turned out to be a lovely venue complete with home-made guitar amps and burlesque dancers. What more could a band want? The set is below. On the way back to the station, Matthew fell over. For some reason he decided to not use his hands to stop him and used instead...the side of his own face. Greg cried laughing (also on the floor) for about 20 minutes. Comradeship my @rse...

(Freedom - Wham)
Sleepwalking
Ever
Suburb 666
Without warning without reason
Will to fail
Lone Star Junior
Punkabilly
Girlsmakerain

In the pipeline, Matthew plans to remix - Scenery for public and Beauty uber alles, whole band plans to finish writing another 10 to 12 songs to add to 'won't forget'; 'suburb 666' and 'untitled'. Gigs in St Albans, Oxford and Bath to be sorted, set lists continuing to be randomised...and more...so stay tuned. This gets updated occasionally you know.

WTP

Posted on Monday Oct 12 0:00:00 BST 2009
Listed under: Matthew
Aware of the fact that football Blogs may not be of relevance or interest to all 3 of you who have ever checked out a WTP blog. Matthew will be moving his non-band related blogs to his Blogspot account in the next few days.
 
Link to be posted soon and then most of the blogs will be moved.
 
Cheers,
 
Matthew
Posted on Monday Jul 6 0:00:00 BST 2009
Listed under: Music

I can't help feeling that for the most part a lot of people that hear our music (and let's face it in reality that is not a lot of people) are somewhat disappointed - on hearing our name and knowing its origins - that we don't sound more like the Afghan Whigs. Sure they're probably my favourite band, but they're up there with maybe a hundred others…and it's the same with the other guys, Gav's favourite band for instance is probably Therapy?

The truth is we never set out to be Dulli clones, in fact when we first started hanging with Gav (and we really did get hanging!) the first thing he did was reintroduce me to the Afghan Whigs. At the time I owned 'Gentlemen' and 'Black Love' on CD as well as a handful of CD singles and I also had an ageing copy of 'Up In It' that a friend had taped for me onto cassette at university. Within a week or so I'd filled myself in with with the rest of Dulli's output from a 'retarded' single right up to 'Blackberry Belle' and fell back in love. Although the Whigs had been an ever-present on my Walkman, CD Walkman then Ipod up to that point, having suddenly found around 4 albums that I'd pretty much never heard was like finding a Monet in Grandma's attic.

We were lucky enough to struggle in to Islington in the snow one winter's night (London's transport system ginds to a complete halt if snow even threatens to fall) and see the Twilight Singers deliver an awesome gig at the Academy, my first exposure to Dulli live and one of my top five ever gigs. Subsequently Greg and I have flown out to the States twice to watch them only to subsequently fall for Jeff Klein (and then we accidentally bumped into Eddie Vedder while watching Bill Janovitz play solo in a tiny bar in Cambridge MA but that's another story) - obsessive uber fans maybe - but copycat clones? Not our style, although my belly's getting there. Our sound is more akin to the 'Up In It' days than Greg's more recent material. Due in no small part to our modest, working-class recording budgets, but also due a common love of Husker Du and the Replacements…and The Supremes of course.

At Easter 2005 The Nothing (as WTP were previously called) were at something of a crossroads. At least one other band were touring the UK under the moniker of The Nothing and The Nothing from Leeds (containing members of thrash-pop band Send More Paramedics) was understandably getting more press than us. We'd written a bunch of new material and played some storming gigs that winter, and were booked in for two more gigs in close succession: one at the Bull & Gate in Kentish Town and one at the legendary Metro on London's Oxford Street. To cut a long story slightly less long (that's told anyway over on the bio page) we felt we needed a change of some kind. We were desperate to keep either Jay (Ramji) or Martin (Gibbins) on bass but for their own reasons we weren't able to, and members of the band were coming out of relationships…it felt like we were at the end of The Nothing before we'd even got started…we were certainly at the end of something. We announced on the XFM message board and various DIY communities that The Nothing were to play their last gig at the The Bull and Gate. A handful of people cared.

In reality we were planning to become a three-piece and change our name. At the time we weren't sure if we would carry on playing the songs from our debut or not but we did have another gig lined up at the Metro a month later at which we planned to play only new material. While each at our individual day jobs, we took a poll of the remaining 3 members by e-mail, deciding to name ourselves after a Dulli track and got it down to a handful of possibilities. We decided to vote on the new name, and each member had the power of one veto on any name. And so it was that Greg vetoed the most popular name 'HerAgainstMe'. Amongst Big Top Halloween; Crime Scene; The Neglekted and The Number Nines, WhiteTrashParty was actually the fourth favourite and became our name by default when we'd each used up a veto on the top three. That boring story is the story behind the name.

A few days later we played as a three-piece at the Bull & Gate and after an intro of 'Little Red Corvette' we let The Nothing die (fittingly) to the song 'I just wanna give up'. Only about 40 people were there. 2 weeks later we played a packed Friday night at the Metro Club as WhiteTrashParty with 'Faded' being the only old song we played. We all had a brilliant night, Charlie Reay-Smith (as he often does) filling in on the bass.

So anyway - at some point somewhere around 2007 Summer's Kiss records approached us (and probably hundreds of other bands/artists) to record a track for an Afghan Whigs tribute album. From the presumably hundreds of entries SK would whittle it down to around 12 songs. Although our chances of being included were slim, the thought of the recordings excited the three of us. We immediately booked into Ruff Rockers Studios to see what songs we could learn and do justice to. The obvious choice would have been 'Uptown Again'; the song had been an intermittent inclusion on our live set for 18 months or so, but we really wanted to be able to play as many as we could and make an informed choice on the song we'd record.

We booked in on a sunny, spring Saturday afternoon (the rates were cheaper) and to my knowledge attempted 'Debonair'; 'Retarded'; 'My Enemy'; 'Crime Scene part one'; 'Gentlemen'; 'Uptown Again'; '66'; 'When we two parted', 'Amphetamines and Coffee' and maybe a couple of others that I have since forgotten. After a subsequent rehearsal session and at least one night in the pub we had it down to four songs: 'My Enemy'; 'Crime Scene part one'; '66' and 'When we two parted'. While rehearsing these songs over the next two to three weeks (and many more pints in the pub) we'd started to think "fuck it, lets record all four…".

And that's what we did…we didn't want to change the arrangements too much from either the record or in '66's' case from the way Greg Dulli plays it live with the Twilights. We recorded the tracks at Oilville with Tom Aitkenhed over two days that summer, and needed a third day to iron out some bumps. 'When we two parted' fell by the wayside (I have an rough instrumental version knocking about somewhere). Tom gave the other 3 the same visceral, rough around the edges feel of much of our debut album. We fired them off to Lee at SK what seems like an eternity ago. We got down to what was described to us as the "sweet sixteen" but subsequently were one of the 3 of the sixteen that didn't make it. Lee was kind enough to make 'My Enemy' a bonus track on their website. You can stream it/download it here. The six sixty-six EP containing all three covers is available from the band. E-mail us for details.

Posted on Tuesday May 5 0:00:00 BST 2009
Listed under: Matthew

In the early hours of Sunday morning I woke up in the middle of a horrible nightmare. I had been going about my usual business…everything was normal…except…like a Liquorice Allsort commercial of old…everyone had gone Bertie. Every person I met, my girlfriend, her mum, my folks, my mates…all were wearing Man United shirts and all had giant Liquorice Allsorts for heads. The world hadn’t gone Bertie…it’d gone Bertie INNIT…and I was the last human being left. I was chased past the Wetherspoons in Ruislip Manor by shambling morons…”Innit…innit…” they chanted after me as I ran like Veronica Cartwright at the end of The Invasion of the Body Snatchers…the trees on the avenues were dying, suburban gardens were filled with alien pods and Leonard Nimoy’s ears…I tripped on the steps of the tube station and suddenly I was trapped…a wall of red AIG shirts all around me…”You hate US don’t you?...you hate US because you’re jealous…you hate US because we’re successful innit?...”

 

I wake up in a panic…the room is a little unfamiliar…my girlfriend’s not here…I need to check she hasn’t got a pink Liqourice Allsort for a head. Phew it was just a nightmare…now I remember. Kate’s in Birmingham on a hen-do. I’m staying at my mum and dad’s place because I went to a reunion of sorts with some old schoolfriends at the Vine last night. I think I’m safe…

 

The band played a gig later that night so I was somewhat distracted for the rest of Sunday. Firstly by the buzz of playing live and then by lots of beer…but the dream stayed with me…or at least part of it did. A lot of the detail fades…dreams are thin memories when you're back in the real world. But the words of Man United fans were still there, mainly I think because they don’t just say stupid things in dreams…it’s all the time. In the office, in the pub, on blogs, on the streets.

 

It set me to thinking…do I really hate Manchester United?

 

And you know what? I don’t think I do. It was a revelation. Every fibre of my being should hate Manchester United Football Club…what was happening to me? Had my body really been snatched and my mind with it? I rubbed my cheeks to make sure no blue hundreds and thousands dropped off.

 

You see…I have a genuine respect for the team (hair-gelled Portuguese tumbler aside), and their achievements. They are sometimes good to watch and sometimes like watching Germany grind out a result; doing just what is necessary to win, to put points on the board or to progress to the next stage. I can’t hate them for that.

 

Sure, sometimes they get more than their fair share of decisions from the officials. That much is true. But if referees are influenced by the barracking of the players or by baiting in the media by Ferguson then that’s a problem with the referees not Manchester United…God knows referees cannot be influenced by crowd noise at the Old Trafford Library…unless it’s from the away supporters of course.

 

Then there’s Alex Ferguson. Yes I do have a genuine dislike for anyone with a title that insists you use it…but that’s not enough to make me hate Sir Alex any more than I hate that other belligerent little arsehole Sir Alan Sugar who also insists on being called ‘Sir Alan’ in the self-serving bollocks that serves as entertainment for passive proles. Besides…when I watch Alex Ferguson…no matter how much shit he talks…I just keep looking at that big pink face and the nose with its network of alizarin, iron oxide, scarlet and vermillion capillaries - like a Jackson Pollack work with the yellow and blue switched off – and you can’t help thinking “Aw bless him…let him talk shit…that liver isn't going to last forever is it?” I used to feel the same when watching Chesney Hawkes videos…it pisses you off for a bit and then you realise that somewhere deep within that mole lie the secret DNA codes to a melanin time-bomb…and you just can’t hate him.

 

So it’s not the team. Not the manager…what is it?...the success?…well no…how can it be? As I said above I have a genuine respect for the team and their achievements…and also…Liverpool are more successful…do I really want Liverpool to have had the same level of success as Man United? Therefore to have won one less league title and two less European cups? Doesn’t make sense does it? I didn’t hate the Arsenal team that went through a Premier League season unbeaten with what must be classed as the best season-long performance in the English top-flight for generations…sure Pires fell over a bit…well A LOT…but I didn’t hate them. Barcelona currently play the BEST football on the planet…I don’t hate watching them…I love it.

 

Then it hits you…the ‘AHA’ moment…It’s not Manchester United Football Club I hate…It’s Manchester United fans. Sorry let me correct that sentence so that Manchester United fans can understand it.

 

It’s Manchester United fans…innit.

 

I’m in my mid thirties…in that time I must have met thousands of Manchester United fans. I’m wracking my brains right now to think of any that I could either watch a football match with, or hold a conversation about football with.

 

Mmmmm…there’s David “Orv” Keane (RIP), John Gott…er…maybe Weymouth…maybe Nicholls…and I’m stuck.

 

Sure every club has its twat fans. I’m sometimes stuck behind them at Loftus Road or at the Emirates…or stuck next to nouveau Chelsea in the pub…and yes the odd bitter LFC bore…but for sheer, unadulterated, patentable fuckheadness…Man United fans must take the biscuit innit. If you took 100 fans of every team in the world and divided them into ‘normal’ and ‘cock’…everyone else would have between 7 and 10 cocks. The Man United group would have 99 cocks and 1 normal fan. It’s frightening…

 

Part of it you see isn’t Man United specific…you could say that Man United fans aren’t cocks, rather that cocks tend to support Man United.
  
3 minutes before the kick-off of the Champions League semi final there’s nothing in the pub except noisy Ruislip Gooners in Reebok Classics, earings and All Saints cardigans who couldn’t find the Holloway Road if you punched it into the Sat-Nav of their 3-Series BMWs for them. Then there’s a little influx of AIG shirts…and what Robbo Robson called ‘toffs in pinstripes and go-faster specs’. These ‘fans’ just looked at the league table one day and thought to themselves… “what ho I think I’ll just support the chaps at the top…ra ra!”. These twats are not Man United specific…they’re just twats…everyone I went to school with that grew up a Liverpool fan because they won all the time…and now supports Chelsea is also a twat. Fuck them. Who will they ‘support’ next year? Who cares.

 

So I try to avoid anyone in the AIG uniform where possible. You’ve only got a one-in-a-hundred chance of an intelligent conversation. Everyone who knows anything about football can spot a Man United fan even if they’re not in AIG. They arrived at the pub in a car that had a personalised number plate. They’re the ones shouting abuse at the screen every – and I mean EVERY – time a decision doesn’t go their way. They clap at TV screens for mysterious reasons that the rest of us can’t fathom…like throw ins or balls into the box that no-one gets on the end of. They cheer loudly when the ball rolls into the net and everyone else heard the whistle or saw the flag 20 seconds ago…they keep cheering and everyone else points, laughs and shouts: “SIDDOWN!!” And they sulk. If their team loses they sulk and make up excuses. Then finally…unable to put up with the banter…they crack…straining to hold back the tears…they finally go Bertie innit.

 

“EVERYONE WANTS TO BEAT US COZ WE’RE THE BIGGEST AND THE BEST IN THE WORLD INNIT…YOU HATE US…YOU HATE US BECAUSE YOU’RE JEALOUS OF OUR SUCCESS INNIT…”

 

Aw bless…lets chat shall we?

 

ME: “By what means would you quantify being the ‘best club in the world’ as you put it?”

MUFI (Man U Fan Innit): “We’re the world champions innit”

 

ME: “Ah you mean you currently hold the World Club Championship after defeating the best that Ecuador had to offer. You do realise that this trophy is seen as a bit of a joke if you’re not South American don’t you? Liverpool refused to take part in the 70s; Brian Clough twice sent reserve squads; In the 1980s when Liverpool played Independiente, the game was played on sand and not grass. That’s how prestigious this tournament is”

MUFI: “Whatever man innit…we’re the best in the world”

 

ME: “Wicked this is like talking to a child…so between 2001 and 2005 all teams were joint  best in the world? Hillingdon Borough were joint best team in the world for four years running? Brilliant…that’s cheered me up no end.”

MUFI: “Whatever man innit… we're the best in the world...most successful club in the world innit...you hate us because we're successful”

 

ME:  “Er…let’s get something straight before we carry on shall we? I don’t hate you because you’re successful. I dislike you because you are a twat. YOU are not successful. YOU did not make any contribution to Manchester United’s success at all. All YOU did was choose to be a fan of the team that was winning, it’s like saying you support America in wars and then saying: ‘WE certainly showed those Iraqi civilians’. I am not jealous of YOU, I am currently the happiest man in the world that I am not YOU…understand? Secondly…if I was going to be jealous of another team’s success on the world stage then why would I chose a team that – by your own judgement criteria – is at best joint seventh in the world?”

MUFI: “What man innit?”

 

ME: “If I was jealous of anyone it would be Madrid, Boca Juniors, Nacional, Penarol, Sao Paulo or Milan who have all been world champions more than Manchester United...you are at best, joint 7th in the world along with Porto, Santos, Bayern, Inter, Ajax, Juve and Independiente.”

MUFI: “Whatever man innit…you’re jealous of our success in Europe” (Yep…I genuinely have had this reply before from a Man United follower…stop laughing)

 

ME: *Fighting back giggles* “Well not really...you're behind Madrid, Milan, Liverpool, Bayern and Ajax for the big one...you were one dodgy slip in a penalty shootout from still being level with Notts Forest…I can’t recollect ever being particularly jealous of Notts Forest”

MUFI: “Biggest and best innit...WE'VE won the league the most times ever, most successful British club ever....innit”

 

ME: “Do you mean in England? Rangers have 51 league titles, Celtic have 42, Liverpool have 18…Man United have 17…they’re not just NOT the most successful team in the UK…they’re not even the most successful in England.”

MUFI: “That’s all history man innit…we’re biggest and best innit”

 

ME: “But most of your trophies are in the past also, as in 16 of your league titles…two of your European Cups…you’re not making much sense mate…tell you what…you’re right…football began in 1993…you’re the biggest and best innit.”

MUFI: “I knew it innit…best and BIGGEST…a money making MACHINE innit”

 

ME: “mmmm…such a strange thing to be proud of…”

MUFI: “BIGGEST AND BE…”

 

ME: “Let me stop you there.” *and I walk off*

 

So there you have it. I don’t hate Manchester United…I don’t even really hate their fans…I think they’re fucking hilarious. The best thing about it is that a genuine Man United fan with self respect, dignity, honesty and integrity could read this blog and not be offended as they would know immediately that I wasn’t talking about them.

 

The rest can go fuck themselves.

 

Innit.

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